What are your thoughts on the Lemmy ecosystem?

I’ve been trying it out for the last week. I have my own opinions, but I’d like to hear others and see if we have common ideas on what is good/bad/indifferent about the Lemmy ecosystem.

  • @bluewing@lemm.ee
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    618 minutes ago

    Short answer is No. It suffers from many of the same issues of echo chamber, bias, and bullying. Just on a somewhat smaller scale due to fewer users. And never forget - Winter is coming. There will be a time in the future the bots will notice lemmee and come for it also.

    But I suspect this is all a human thing. We are a contentious bunch at best and down right hateful at worst. We build communities only to poison and kill them in the end.

  • @VanillaBean@lemmy.world
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    I was a Reddit veteran for years, I hate Reddit now and don’t use it mostly due to getting random permabans. Lemmy functions well - much better than that dog shit site Reddit, but it’s not there yet in terms of communities and activity. There is very little local/regional activity that I miss most from Reddit. Overall, it’s effective in the technical sense, but content-wise it is still a very small fraction of what Reddit is unfortunately. And I am not confident it ever will be a true replacement.

  • @TastyWheat@lemmy.world
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    Well, I deleted my r account the day they fucked over the app developers. Been here since, so I guess it’s a decent alternative. Not as much current content and it’s 90% politics on the front page… That can be filtered out though.

    The militant Linux missionaries though, they get blocked. They show up in most tech threads and it got old a year ago.

  • @TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee
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    It has been growing, but it depends on the community the people who are submitting posts of each community. It also depends on the engagement of the discussion and whether participation decays or is allowed to decay into toxicity.

    I think Lemmy could be doing a lot more than Reddit, like showing who votes what, but people want the ability without the responsibility or transparency. It’s ironic because not only is it perfectly visible to the admins, but there are ways you can get a pretty good idea of who’s performing them as a normal . It would help not just in the sense of getting a better idea of why or where someone is coming from and prevent false suspicions, but it would also allow you to keep different groups of users whose recommendations might be something you would like to prioritize over other submissions or whose moderation you’d like to favor over the standard. Abusing the transparency would be easy to denounce and moderate, too.

    In regards to the modlog, I don’t think it’s doing enough, the text in the reason field might as well be “word” and the transparency isn’t compensating for the lack of a resolution process that many if not all social networks seem to want to skip. There are still things like no notification of mod actions that affected your comments or your user, and some decisions, like allowing mods to ban you, remove some of your comments while allowing others to remain, shaping or serving a narrative without giving you the ability to delete or edit your contributions while the ban is in place, give foreign instances and communities more power than they should have.

    There’s no way to contest modlog actions within the modlog, and the maturity of the people has been proven to be very, very questionable when they’ve been outed. It has also adopted reddit’s policy of obfuscating the moderator performing an action even though creating an alt is easier than ever and many of them already have them, which works against the supposed commitment to transparency.

    But it’s very slightly better than reddit’s, and there’s nothing like shadow bans here. Parting observations, don’t feed your carnivore pet vegetables if you aren’t prepared to go all the way to seek and get an approved diet and dietary supplements for a bonafide veterinary, and it’s funny seeing all the anarchy people not have a problem with the present power imbalance between the users and the leadership within the current system, but then again, they have a nice instance with the label.

    Overall, fuck spez.

    • Blaze (he/him)
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      123 minutes ago

      There’s no way to contest modlog actions within the modlog, and the maturity of the people has been proven to be very, very questionable when they’ve been outed. It has also adopted reddit’s policy of obfuscating the moderator performing an action even though creating an alt is easier than ever and many of them already have them, which works against the supposed commitment to transparency.

      !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com helps a bit with that

  • @ikidd@lemmy.world
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    152 hours ago

    I was a 15 year Reddit veteran and modded a couple dozen communities over there. I’ve moved over here with no regrets. The only thing that takes me back to Reddit is search results, and that’s getting less and less as more people have abandoned it and deleted comments.

    The amount of bots there now is astounding. It’s making me believe in the Dead Internet Theory.

  • @Underwaterbob@lemm.ee
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    52 hours ago

    Not for science fiction literature, guitar pedals, and synthesizers which was primarily what I went to Reddit for in the first place. There was some effort to get those communities going here back during the mass migration here from Reddit, but they’ve never really thrived. It sucks, but I’m not going back. I take a peek at r/synthesizers on occasion, and really it’s just a gaggle of self-promoting synthtubers and umpteen iterations of “what should I buy?”.

    • @zaphod@sopuli.xyz
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      11 hour ago

      Yeah, there used to be an instance for mostly synthesizer related stuff but they shut down and no alternative community took off. There also used to be a relatively active sci-fi community but then some drama happened and it died down a lot.

      • Blaze (he/him)
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        256 minutes ago

        There also used to be a relatively active sci-fi community but then some drama happened and it died down a lot.

        Interesting, is it documented somewhere?

  • Match!!
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    136 hours ago

    80% effective. The porn quality is weak.

  • Cowbee [he/him]
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    45 hours ago

    If you pick a good, internally stable instance, it’s great. Local can be more curated to your tastes, All can be more general.

  • kamen
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    349 hours ago

    Platform-wise, it’s already proven that it’s a viable alternative (with some advantages even - the federated nature for one), but content-wise, it has A LOT to catch up (because let’s be honest - in addition to all the bullshit and toxic people, Reddit has tons of useful information and good people still).

  • @Resonosity@lemmy.world
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    46 hours ago

    What do we mean by effective?

    One might say that the effectiveness of reddit is its niche communities that allow each and every user to find somewhere they feel like they belong. Not only this, the complexity of niches gives rise to interesting information that bubbles to the surface and front page of the platform where more users have exposure. One might contribute this to the quantity of users on reddit’s platform, and also the discoverability of the platform itself.

    Personally, I think Lemmy is decently effective now aside from the saturation in political and tech news and memes. I think things will get better as for-profit companies squeeze more and more people out of their platforms, and people look to alternatives rather than dropping their digital consumption habits.

    I do think discoverability is still a downfall of Lemmy, from both internal and external views. I want to better find /communities from inside the platform and via a search engine should my use and value of Lemmy increase. Wonder how development has gone on this front.

    Ultimately, the FOSS nature of Lemmy is one of its greatest strengths. It can improve over time, ripping features from the big players without the destiny of being killed eventually if not profitable. I think this characteristic alone gives rise to the potential of Lemmy to be very effective over time.

    • Blaze (he/him)
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      22 hours ago

      I do think discoverability is still a downfall of Lemmy, from both internal and external views. I want to better find /communities from inside the platform and via a search engine should my use and value of Lemmy increase. Wonder how development has gone on this front.

      https://lemmyverse.net/communities

      • @Resonosity@lemmy.world
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        256 minutes ago

        Yep that helps me find communities from within Lemmy. I just also remembered that Sync has this feature too.

        External visibility and discoverability is still an issue

        • Blaze (he/him)
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          112 minutes ago

          Search engine discoverability is mostly on the search engines, and with the latest deal between Google and Reddit that probably won’t change in the future

  • @Navarian@lemm.ee
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    138 hours ago

    I imagine we all have different use cases, my idea of Lemmy succeeding may not be your idea.

    That being said, as a replacement for Reddit, where I can scroll through the top say 50 posts once or twice a day, it absolutely fits the bill.

    Engagement is much better for me here, I imagine due to the smaller size of the community, that lends itself to their being much less useless garbage comments and much more constructive or informative discussion.

    The above being said, I do wish there were more people here.

    • @1371113@lemmy.world
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      26 hours ago

      Wholeheartedly agree. Not too many more though I hope. Once a platform reaches a certain point all the general public arrives and everything goes to shit. You have to keep your corner of the internet nerdyish to avoid this. Been true since the early 2000s for forums and then social media.

  • @Boomkop3@reddthat.com
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    189 hours ago

    I personally think it’s a ton better. The platform is a bit less mature, but the people are much nicer and the filtering/blocking is lightyears ahead

    • @Valmond@lemmy.world
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      119 hours ago

      And you can say fuck without being auto banned or something. Not a big thing but sometimes it’s nice to not have to sugarcoat everything.

    • @DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca
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      I’m guessing that filtering helps make it nicer, I see way more nasty and extreme shit on Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit. I want to like Lemmy, but I can’t recommend it to anyone I know because of how toxic the base experience has been.

      May I ask what you filtered out to make it seem like “the people are much nicer” on a day to day basis? Genuine question, not sarcasm.

      • @LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world
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        11 hour ago

        For me, I blocked the political subs and it helped a lot. But idk what content is bothering you. Are you looking at local to lemmy.ca? Idk anything about that instance. Lemmy.world seems pretty chill, it has the reputation of being the most mainstream instance

        • @DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca
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          134 minutes ago

          I typically browse All as Lemmy is pretty small and content feels limited. What surprised me the most was how often I see casual calls for violence and mass murder. Though as you mentioned, blocking political subs would probably help.

          • @LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world
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            14 minutes ago

            Yeah I remember getting in argument with someone who suggested violence/intimidation against everyone who committed the crime of…wait for it… driving a Cybertruck

      • @Boomkop3@reddthat.com
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        28 hours ago

        Same as I did when using reddit. I add a filter almost every time I see something that I feel like doesn’t belong on my feed. Comment sections are also filtered on the app I use.

        I can screenshot and dm you my list of filters, if you’d like. I would prefer not posting them publicly

        • @DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca
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          If you could that would help give me a place to start. My worry is how fast the content pool might shrink, can you DM me the worst offenders? The main thing that bugs me is the frequent calls for political violence from people I’m not sure have ever touched grass.

  • @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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    2911 hours ago

    I last logged into Reddit in 2022.

    There’s a lot of things missing - especially niche communities - but there’s enough people to get into silly debates with and enough memes for me to scroll each day.

  • @Skates@feddit.nl
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    8 hours ago

    Effective? No. Considering the purpose of all internet communities is to grow and have diversity, it’s not effective. Aside from the currently low number of users, the fact that you can have the same community in different instances means a community will never grow large enough. Add to that the “you’re literally killing children if you’re a centrist” people and all the tankies, and what you have here is a leftist circlejerk that will remain small and irelevant enough to suit its need to be an echo chamber without any actual diversity. So maybe it’s effective from that point of view? Idk.

    • Blaze (he/him)
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      57 hours ago

      Aside from the currently low number of users, the fact that you can have the same community in different instances means a community will never grow large enough.

      Isn’t !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com an example of a community which grew large enough to become the reference?

      • @Skates@feddit.nl
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        Not sure. I can’t remember right now why I blocked dbzer0 completely, but my filters are blocking this instance. Which I guess is another side of the same coin: defederation (and allowing entire instances to be blocked) also contributes to fragmentation of communities. I had no idea the largest piracy community is on dbzer0, so I would subscribe to another piracy community on another instance, and thus split the memberships even more.